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to get a deal done so that i don't have to keep boring people with this term fiscal cliff? >> right. to really get the deal done right you need about 4 troll trillion to get us back on track. that means pro-growth tax reform, entitlement reform and better control of savings of the proposals at this point are not at that level. they're more $2.5 trillion range. we're very anxious to see what the president will put forward in terms of savings and reform. adam: in roughly four days can all of you in washington get this deal done? or is it going to be some kind of a patch with some kind of delay and than we'll deal with the new congress deals with it? >> well, adam i think you're kind of on it there. it would be great if we can get it done. if not let's at least get the framework to set it up and finish it off right away. either way we have to get a deal done before congress gets adjourned or get a deal done in the new congress. there is enough proposals put forward. get the deal we need to get things on track. adam: we should point out i think senator scott brown out of massachusetts l
about this fiscal cliff. right? so you laugh, right. >> i'm not laughing but if you take a dollar out of every -- that's a tax. >> i understand. i would rather self impose a tax than be forced to do something. therefore you're going to want to do it. for me, it's muscle memory. once you try it, you'll feel a tremendous patriotism and it will be -- >> did you hear that lieutenant colonel representative say we don't have a tax problem, we don't have a revenue problem, it's a spending problem? this doesn't address the problem in washington. that's the problem. >> again, once we band together, companies and citizens, we're listen, we need additional receipts, period. that's a known. it's going to happen for a period of time through -- >> you're a business guy. we're run out of time.j3 if you take in money but spend more, you're still taking in more money every year. you have to worry about the spending side, not revenue. >> the good faith program i started is going to force our elected officials to do something. we'll hit it at top. they hit it at the bottom. we'll meet in the middle and
was the epa. >> that was dick armey. kenneth vogel, talk about what is happening with the fiscal cliff right now in the major divisions within the republican party. you follow the conservative movement within the republican party. >> i think that is the story of the fiscal cliff stalemate, much as it was last year with the stalemate over increasing the debt ceiling. it is, in fact, these tea party members who are elected first in the conservative wave of 2010 when republicans took back the house, and subsequently, there were some additions to the sort of tea party caucuses in both the house and senate in 2012, but many fewer. in fact, many tea party members lost their re-election bid in 2012. it is hard to generalize, but you could look at a number of them and say that this sort of souring of public opinion on the tea party as a result of their perceived unwillingness to compromise in 2011 over the debt ceiling negotiations probably was held against them, probably heard not only them in their reelection bid, but also republicans more broadly and republican brand, because they are perceived t
>>> just days away from the fiscal cliff right now. can lawmaker reach a last- minute deal in time? a live report from capitol hill coming up. >> plus, a u.s. general way memorable military career has passed away. a look at the life and legacy of desert storm commander norman schwarzkopf. >> a redskins-cowboys preview with dave ross a little bit later. fox 5 morning news continues right now. right now. >> you can see how clear it is. clearly. friday, december 28th. good morning. i'm sarah simmons. h simmons. >> let's talk to tucker barnes about the weather. >> we are looking fine. it is chilly out there. kind of seasonbury chilly. temperatures back in the low to mid-30s and we'll be in for a decent day. about maybe 40, 42 today, partial sunshine. so friday looks good. tomorrow, things get a little more interesting as we've got this winter event on the way. not a huge event but it is an event. >> it is an event but not quite an event. >> okay. i'm just excited about it. >> you are allowed to be excite about it. we don't want to scare people. >> i know. i won't. >> 33 this morning at
for us to go over the fiscal cliff and then taxes will rise, right, but then congress will reconvene on january 3rd and vote to cut taxes. is that appliable solution in your mind? >> it kind of it, pretty much what i feel will happen. they have a little bit of wiggle room. the majority of this is not going to be felt until 2014 for the majority of the income tax rise so that causes congress to force them to make a deal knowing that we actually are operating under a higher tax rate right now, even though americans won't feel it, so it's almost like an additional leverage for those who actually want to make a deal and get something done. i just want somebody, like starbucks, we all need to come together. >> and quit kicking the can down the road, darn it. >> exactly. >> ryan thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> ryan has been with us all week tackling the fiscal effects on your pocketbook. tomorrow, what the fiscal cliff means for your retirement. >>> from the strange case of the technology pioneer john mcafee on the run to so many tragic shootings, we have the top
sides are looking at if fiscal cliff right now and saying, well, we could go over this thing. it wouldn't be the end of the world and that's a very different view in washington than it is on wall street. i can tell you that. >> eamon, thanks. i know you've got a long day ahead, a long afternoon as well. eamon javers in washington. >> isn't it unbelievable. you have this huge, looming problem, i'll wait until later this afternoon to deal with it. >> and the whole sequester was a way to deal with this later. and corker, i think, on some of the morning shows this morning, senator corker said the worst case today would be to set up another later deadline that would keep the hard questions -- >> and i think a lot of this is so abstract, but if those milk prices go up for people around this country, that's going to be the thing that gets people really animated. >> that and payroll taxes, if they go up, that will hit a lot of americans across the board. >> interesting to see a lot of the stocks today that have exposure to dairy futures, whether it's an hsy, who knows? i haven't even gone throu
now not serving the people in the best fashion. we need the fiscal cliff resolved right away. this uncertainty causes great harm to the country, and we need very aggressive plans to reformulate our budget so that we don't have to have this uncertainty hanging over us so freakedly. you know, right now, american factories have a 20% price differential with competitors all through the the world. we need our system to be more competitive so we can grow. if we raise taxes on the job creators, on the factory owners, what happens is we'll be less competitive. the 20% will grow. we'll have less factories built here in america. it's very important that washington starts working out deals right away so that the fiscal cliff can be history, and we can focus on building factories, higher people, growing. dagen: well, they are not listening to you, drew. i hate to break it to you. in the interim, your company makes wire baskets and does sheet metal fabrication. based on what you see, how much of your own customers pulled back? have you seen layoffs? have you seen spending cuts ahead of th
now we are coming up 73.5 hours of going over the fiscal cliff the one that they are pushing us off and everyone s scrambling to scrap scrape toga solution. is the house doing anything at all. congressman aaron schact joins us. >> good evening, sir. >> republicans blame democrats and democrats blame republicans and the leadership as it goes beyond that you have political oh opponents it but you rise above it and have solutions for the american people. where is that leadership? >> it has been lacking without doubt and look, kudos to you for holding elected officials feet to the fire. my party and colleagues and myself included it is frustrating as a house member. i can't be a house member and senator and president all at once. the house has led. we have tried to be the party of ideas. the body of ideas. as you know this summer we passed a bill to keep tax rates low for everyone. it has been dead in the senate. harry reid won't take it up. after the election john boehner got criticism even from my party saying look, mr. president we will meet you halfway and give you the $800 billion
-called fiscal a cliff right now. the house and senate are striking a deal oh avoid massive tax hikes and spending cuts. derek ward is live with more on what's happening today. >> the end is near. that's the end of the year, of course. what about the path that ends at the end of the fiscal cliff. senators should be back at it. the house reconvened this morning. such new year's eve appearances are on the hill. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden kept in place to avoid $200 billion in tax increases. broad stroke spending cuts and domestic and defense spending. they would take effect gradually over a period beginning at midnight if the white house and congress can't reconcile their differences. it appeared to have been movement on the cost of living increases for social security recipients. opposition to the white house's proposed rate of increase was dropped but the common ground is even shaky. the fierce disagreement over whether the bush era tax cut with the top income earners should be allowed to expire while middle income earners would see tax relief. the sticking p
will be spent on what's at hand right now obviously with the fiscal cliff, and obviously what we do with 2013, i don't think that you're going to see a lot of regulation questioned, asked during 2013. >> okay. >> i think this one is one stock that will benefit. you'll see the analysts start to upgrade it. >> that being b of a. >> wait until the dow goes higher on your list for 2013. >> we don't do anything with respect to the theories of the dogs of the dow, but the generic sense of buying laggards for future outperformers is a broad one. higher growth names outperforming versus last year which was more defensive. what you do is look at the real laggards, hp and intel come to mind real quickly. >> right. >> they are down low for very good reasons. they are reason to be the desk top computing is definitely under siege with more mobile computing. the management issues with hp. all of those things need to be ironed out and as a result the stocks have underperformed. >> are you saying you would buy those here? >> we don't own them right now and not contemplating buying them right now. talk about str
'll be back on wednesday, in time to trade the fiscal cliff. all right. the deadline, of course, just hours away. if lawmakers wind up kicking the can down the road, they may want to come up with a way of saying so. that son the annual list of words to be ban issued. spoiler alert, trending and bucket list, not surprisingly the phrase that got the most nominations this year, fiscal cliff. so that brings us to this morning's squawk on the tweet. what other phrases should be banned and why. and remember, try and keep it clean. tweet us at squawk street. we've got your responses throughout the morning. fiscal cliff definitely has to go. >> i can't wait for hash tag to go away. >> we'll start hearing about the debt ceiling in two months. >> a ban on 2013's list. >> have a great new year. >> you as well. i have no special plans. i have a 3-month-old daughter -- >> that's very special. >> i'm prohibited from going anywhere. we have dinner reservations about 4:30 p.m., though. >> early birds. >> happy new year. >> same to you. >> presidents of americans for tax reforms, grover norquist ond how his
to go south? >> that's right. happy new years, america. we appear poised to dive off the fiscal cliff starting with a round of finger pointing today. this is classic gridlocked washington. why america is fed up with the lawmakers and all about pointing fingers, gaining the upper hand here. and also, gaming this out because if we do dive off the cliff an we don't get a deal in the next couple of days, which looks increasingly like where we're headed then we come back in january and have to negotiate again and a political advantage for both sides if that's the case. >> her's the thing. even if a deal does get done at this point, it's a small deal. much smaller deal than both sides said they wanted several months ago. the debt ceiling, will be back in two months. there's a good chance we are going to be revisiting a budget issue in march, as well. is this the new d.c. zachary? >> well, it's kind of an old d.c. and the current version, you know, 4.0. and you're absolutely right. it's convenient because there's a news hook for the fiscal cliff for january 1st and calling this now b.c. befo
does not reach the agreement on the fiscal cliff. right now there are still negotiations that are going on. they are being led by the vice president, vice president biden and senator minority leader mitch mcconnell. sources say that they are making some progress, but even if a deal is reached, no guarantee it's going to pass. listen to what one democratic senator, tom harkin, said on on the senate floor just earlier this morning. >> if we're going to have some kind of a deal, the deal must be one that really does favor the middle class, the real middle class, those making 30, 50, 60, $7,000 a year. that's the real middle class in america. as i see this thing developing, quite frankly as i've said before no deal is better than a bad deal, and this looks like a very bad deal the way it's shaping up. >> we want to bring in dana bash on capitol hill. when you think about it, both sides are not happy with what's taking place, at least what they're talking about. i know you have some new information on at least what the republicans are suggesting when it comes to those massive spending cuts,
us and the fiscal cliff right in front of us, i think it's nice just to have an evening when we can focus on what is important, like whether molly ringwald is really here tonight. is she? i trust you all read "the new york times" piece this past week on how tonight is part of a close, visible makeover for the national book awards them article goes on to say the goal is to add more sex appeal to an industry that is not exactly known for it. and there will be signs everywhere of the aspirations to turn this once dowdy event into a glamorous party. from where i stand, looking out at your sexy, sexy faces,-you are post-dowdy. thank you. that's the drinking table. it's fun to tell jokes outside of new york that you're involved with the nba because people start can go you questions about what lebron and kobe are really like. it's really an understandable confusion because writers and professional ballers are incredibly similar. they're both wildly overpaid people, in peak physical condition. but the real similarity is this. both writers and basketball players really want their first draft
is that going to do to the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> right, there are a couple deadli deadlines actually coming up. january 2nd is the last day of the current congress. any bill that's been submitted, especially the bills that have been passed, the deal with the fiscal cliff, those bills would be worthless. they would go into paper and everything would have to start from scratch. the new congress would have to start a bill and start the process from the beginning. now there are some tricks that congress has to try to speed things up when it wants to. so to some degree, it's not that big of a deal. if there was a deal in the offing, january 3rd, enough votes for it, they could get around the hurdles. but i'm glad you brought up the deadlines because another one is tomorrow. unemployment benefits run out tomorrow for 1 million people. not true. the unemployment portion of the fiscal cliff actually hits us tomorrow. and that's when 1 million people are estimated to see unemployment benefits run out. and tomorrow is also the day that the house will return. i know we said that democrats shame
with four days to go before the fiscal cliff strikes. >> all right. always a pleasure. thank you, sir. >> good to be with you. >>> major break today in negotiations between dock workers and port operators puts off at least for now a port strike that would have shut down nearly all shipping traffic along the east and gulf coast. a federal mediator says that the union and group representing the shipping lines agreed to a 30-day contract extension narrowly averting the sunday strike deadline. business groups warn that the economic impact of such a work stoppage is disaster. joining me is nbc's ron mott. for folks not following the story, how did we get here? >> reporter: folks haven't because they're paying attention to the fiscal cliff. this was lurking in the shadows and today moved the ball down the field for 30 days and may be talking about a strike again in 30 days but the big issue here was this so-called container royalty that the shipping companies pay to the union members who actually the guys and men and women offloading the big ships and the containers with things like tvs and
the fiscal cliff and sharing your messages right here for congress and the country to hear. our josh levs up next with those. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. >>> we have been listening to members of congress when talking about the fiscal cliff, i enjoyed more hearing from you can the people, because after all that's what democracy is all b josh levels is back now with more of your messages for especially those in washington. >> yeah, i mean, look this is part of what's inspired people in washington to actually do something, is the mounting frustration in addition to the fiscal concerns, the mounting frustration all over the country, as
that. the fiscal cliff, which companies get hurt the most if we go right over that cliff? elizabeth ma cdonald is here with the bottom line. what are we looking at for bad news for what companies? >> walmart hand capped this and have their score card. a number of companies will, you know, dive over the fiscal cliff, and i'm tired of the "fiscal cliff" term, pardon me, it's a manmade term, the fc, whatever happens january 1st. here's why they get sales from government contracts. that's the deal. it's not just the lockheed martins of the world. you'll see in here, humana, other health care companies, of course, medical device companies hit with the tax, but they have striker, for example, and there's a lot of sales from government contracts. you'll see in here, look at that, motorola, holdings in and waste management companies like waste management and republic services, ashley. ashley: what are the stock prices on the companies, iz? >> good point. goldman sachs warned since 2011 when that debt ceiling crisis hit in the summer of 2011 that triggered the fiscal cliff learning that the co
the press when it comes to the fiscal cliff handling, is that the right way to start the negotiation with two days left before the fiscal cliff or shouldn't he sit down and hammer out a deal with the senate republicans and house republicans. do you think a deal gets done? >> i do think a deal will get done. i think it might january 1st. i think we will briefly go over the fiscal cliff. the president worked on the issue months and months. the entire "crisis" is an issue of congress' own making . he was taping the meet the press on saturday. house republicans were cozy and doing nothing on the fiscal cliff. john bone bone took himself out of the negotiations and abdicated responsibility and said he would dole with whatever the senate and president had come to. i happening there is a lot of good proprosals on the table and something will get done, too. >> dave: it appears that senate republicans came a long way in sharing their desire for no taxes raised on the wealthy. $550,000 thres hold for couples is a significant compromise. but can they get anything through the house in terms of g
approaching fiscal cliff. stock futures are stating right now, on hopes set a round of talks in washington will lead to a breakthrough in the fiscal cliff negotiations. fair to reach a deal could push the u.s. economy into recession. the cethe uncertain see has taken a toll on markets. stocks were sold off for four straight sessions as hopes for a substantial budget agreement have diminished, and all three indexes are on track to end of december in negative territory. the dow was down 150 yester day but closed down just 18 points. after work week that investors in the house of representatives would be reconvening on sunday. >> amazon has announce this year's holiday sales as their biggest ever. consumers purchased 306 items per cent and on their peak day this season. amazons says that customers ordered 26 and a half million items on cyber monday. that's a new record for the online retailer. amazons set another record on christmas day for digital download. the kendall continues to dominate the web sites best sellers. the kendall fire 80 tablet leading the way. >> annual research study revea
to remember, forget about the fiscal cliff, what is driving the stock market and keeping us where we are right now? a lot of it is consumer discretionary spending not because of christmas but because gasoline prices have dropped 17%. take advantage of all time low rates giving us a push hold in the market up right now and a lot of people are not talking about that right now. lori: do you think that is enough to prevent the s&p futures from hitting the 1400 level support here in the next couple of weeks? many people would argue more headwinds than tailwinds right now. >larry: we are angry mules kick away from 1400. people are just perplexed, why is the market holding up like it is with all the bad stuff around us. consumer discretionary spending has helped giving us a tailwind. blowing through it in a heartbeat. lori: great to have you, merry christmas. david: teetering on the edge of the cliff. speaking of the fiscal cliff, talks on hold until after christmas and president obama and house speaker john boehner have not spoken since friday. lori: is there any hope for a deal? are you the last ma
cliff before americans plunge head long into smaller paychecks. the u.s. snalt gets back to work right about now. the house has been in session for about an hour now. senate leaders are the ones trying to hammer out a deal picking tax break ceilings, trying to lessen the impact of spending cuts. there are still major obstacles to pass. but this morning we're hearing that progress is being made. we'll have more on that and the fiscal cliff negotiations in a minute. >>> first, i want to show you the rest of the world is ringing in the new year. midnight arrived in asia. they are calling it a pyre tech nick musical. they were scheduled to begin an hour before midnight. hong kong on the top ten places to ring in the new year. let's listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> ring in the new year, good morning 2013. we'll continue to monitor all of these celebrations as the day rolls on. the night rolls on in some cases. midnight in the u.s. is the big fiscal cliff deadline. there are two fronts we are watching today. capitol hill and wall street. let's see if there's any movement on capitol hill. stock ma
the markets overall going up. but right now make no mistake about it, the fiscal cliff doubts in getting to january 1 without some kind of even a patchwork deal is what's driving the markets right now in negative territory. >> as we know, it's not a cliff, it's really a slope or series of steps as you're falling down them should a deal not come to pass here. is the drop that we've seen so far after plan b's failure, will we see yet more of the market reacting, a slow degradation of market performance? >> that depends on essentially if, for instance, a week from monday right now we're sitting here and it's almost a certainty that we're going to go over the cliff. i would argue that we could get more back to a cliff rather than slope analogy because it comes down to how swiftly does the market react in a negative way and how swiftly is the fallout on the overall u.s. economy. for example, we're getting reports from around the country that, number one, retailers have lowered their forecast on what the christmas shopping season is going to look like. we're hearing that one of our reporters w
, the lack of volume. because of the fiscal cliff, huge amounts of oil money on the side lines right now. take a look at volumes. we ran these numbers and put this together, february of 2011 it was a good month for oil, trading the average day, 934,000 contracts traded. by last month, november of this year, that was almost cut in half to almost -- well, a little bit more than half a million a day. yesterday the volume? 175,000 contracts. and today our producer just gave me the numbers, just totalled up all. 261,000 contracts today. that's still half the typical volume for december. this money is on the side lines because even though you can make a lot of money in oil, nobody wants to be hanging out there right now with the danger of the fiscal cliff overhanging everything. it's -- it's not a good time if you have got money and you want to do something with it. ashley: that's right. >> it's on the side lines. ashley: you are right. jeff in the cold. thank you jeff. thank you very much. did you end up with coal in your stocking this year? we had to use that line. coal stocks have taaen a t
one for me greta and then i will stop talking. the fiscal cliff happening right now. what kind of government should we have and what sort of taxes and spending and who should pay what and end the year with a story about everything that touching scenion do with government that we have been arguing about since the start of the election. >> greta: let's have some fun stuff. linn sanity. >> i particularly enjoyed linn sanity. a wonderful story because he was a guy who came from out of no where who had been cut, released, overlooked by other people but also just didn't fit the type of an nba star are that we see in the modern era. an asian american. a short guy who basically took hold of the team in the biggest media market in the country and led the new york nixon this terrific winning streak. petered out a little bit. still needs to work on turnovers. having mixed success in houston. that was sentimentally that was my favorite story of the year. >> greta: for 2013, pay attention to africa. you mentioned the arab but i think africa is and what is going on there will be huge in 2013
're on the edge of the fiscal cliff right now but that doesn't mean we're just going to sign off on anything. republicans are kind of holding their ground at this point and i believe that means there is a deal this weekend, if something happens in the white house today, it will require democrats to either change their stance on taxes and also include a promise of cuts and entitlement reform. otherwise, we really are looking at january 1 and the fiscal cliff happening. in which case a resolution won't happen until the new congress comes into session on january 3rd. gregg: that's right. we've been following not only the events on the floor but people stepping before microphones. here is representative jim moran. >> there are going to be voting sunday night and then probably watching the skins-cowboys fame in the cloakroom. then we'll, then we'll be in session on december 31st as well. gregg: what does he mean, we're going to vote sunday night? >> here's what might happen. both parties meet with the president today at the white house. they all say look, here we are on the precipice here. let's
the fiscal cliff which will have sadly almost no impact on the long- term debt trajectory, but right now, neither markets nor the congress care about that. >> reporter: congress has never been terrific at long-range planning, but now the definition of long range seems to be 48 hours. >> you don't hear people talking, well a year from now, we really need to be here. you hear, well we need to do that this week. we need to do that day after tomorrow. this short-time frame horizon is new and i think people who think we are going to have tax reform and entitlement reform next year are way, way off base. >> cutting short his vacation but it's unclear whether he has the power to force a last minute solution through a deeply divided congress. >> darren gersh. >> so, joe, how bad could that be? >> i had, susie. unfortunately, the economy has been gaining momentum, if you look at the labor market as well as housing making progress. but if we would see a fall from the fiscal cliff, it's not in our own estimates that those in the congressional budget office would be enough to impart a recession in t
certainty on the fiscal cliff, if we don't have resolution to that, i think you're right. in that c.e.o.'s probably will remain fairly conservative in their out look and that probably won't be good for the market. but if we do get resolution, i think c.e.o.'sy nature tend to be optimistic people, and if there's some resolution and they know what the rules of engagement are, they're going to go out and probably be a little bit more optimistic. >> so you have been saying that you changed your investment strategy a little bit nor your clients and you're looking for stocks that grow better than the gdp. do you have a couple you want to tell us about? let's look at the stock markets, bv and t, and the itg, what is it about these stocks that you think are good in this uncertain time? well, i think both companies are set up to deliver better than acknowledge results, better than g.d.p. growth for the new year. ipg is an advertising agency. they lost a little bit of business in 2012. we think that they're going to gain new business in 2013. their leverage and ratios are way down and the man
. that's the fiscal cliff. we reach the brink in two days. let's go live now to dana bash on capitol hill. because of news of a setback. dana, what do we know? >> that's right. we got this word from democratic sources about a half an hour ago. maybe a little bit more. that they consider a major setback to be going on right now. a poison pill, something that the republicans offered last night and democrats rejected today. it's called technically chain cpi, the buzz word for it. what it means for real people and real terms, would be that social security recipients would see smaller checks on a monthly basis and that's why democrats are saying that this is a nonstarter. the president did propose this to the house speakers as part of a larger deal. he even talked about it again this morning on nbc, the president. but democrats are saying that they simply do not see this in this miner, smaller mini deal. they don't want to deal with the entitlement issue at all until a later date when they can deal with it in a broad sense. here's an example of what we heard a half hour ago from the republican
, right now senate leaders scrambling to find common ground to avoid going over that fiscal cliff. got less than three days to go now, folks. at the same time in his weekly address today, the president says he's preparing a plan of action if no deal is reached. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up or down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job, and lays the ground work for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> republicans say they want a deal as well, but they highlighted their biggest sticking points today in their weekly address. listen now to missouri senator roy blount. >> senate democrats have spent months drawing partisan lines in the sand. the president's proposal to raise tax on the top 2% of americans won't even pay one-third of the annual interest that's now owed on this massive $16 trillion debt. in fact, the president's tax hike would only fund the government for eight days. >> the senate is se
, right? how would the fiscal cliff, if we went over, affect gold, do you think? >> i think in the long run, gold will do worse if people start to think that interest rates rise. if dwrur going to park your safe money somewhere else, gold is a negative cash flow asset. >> and why wouldn't gold go up if we were going over the cliff? >> it would. in other words, if we do go over the cliff, you would expect gold to do better. >> and the stock market is. and the stock market hasn't done that badly at all. we're at 15% total return on the year. so if you just listen to the news, you would think we might be down but really, we had a very good year. are you going to be able to introduce this guy, andrew? he has more vowels in his last name than consonants. >> let's go to the futures pits where bob iaccino is standing together. >> would you say chee-no, bob? >> would you like it in english or italian? >> iaccino. with that singing. >> wa part of italy, do you know? >> cosanza is the town. it's the foot of the boot. >> not a bad part of italy. >> no, there's really not. >> bob, help us here. >>
at the new york stock exchange, facebook higher why? >> that's right, stuart, so the fiscal cliff concerns continue. here at the nyse, spirits are high. one of the traders gave me the snazzy glasses and one of the reasons could be facebook. and bmo capital upgraded facebook from underperform to outperform and raised its price target to $32, up from $15. and steeple nicholas raised the price market to $31 up from $26 and looking at facebook shares up 2% this morning and seems like it could be a happy new year for facebook and either way, stuart get these on here, a happy new year to you. stuart: they look pretty good, got to say. >> match the dress. stuart: i heard a comment from the gentleman to your left. >> the gentleman who gave me the glasses, very happy with his donation here. stuart: is he selling those? >> no, free of charge, actually. >> hey, diane, thank you for being here. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: secretary of state hillary clinton remains hospitalized this morning and has a blood clot related to concussion she suffered earlier this month. that concussion prevented her from
of urgency if we fail to avoid the fiscal cliff, go over it and the markets react badly to it. right now people want us to come together in a bipartisan way. the absolute has to be bipartisan in the house. we've seen that in the last week. not even plan b, which is an unreasonable alternative to the too,000 threshold was able to garner a majority in the house of representatives. the speaker can't sell it to his own party, so i think he has to craft a bipartisan solution one way or the other, put aside the politics here. the nation's economic will suffer. >> should it come from the senate or from the house? >> i don't think it matters where it originates, but the point is the senate has already passed a bill that represents a reasonable compromise. extend the 250 -- the tax cuts for all incomes up to $250,000, and everybody would benefit on that first $250,000 of income. that it not only protects the middle class against huge tax increases on january 1, but also benefits many americans making more than 1250,000, because they will see the tax cut extended on their first $250,000 in income.
will be right back gerri: president obama calling on congress to act to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president said he is optimistic. modestly optimistic, that is, that a deal can be done. here is the president. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families and our businesses and for our entire economy. but for immediate action comedy hour is here. it is now. we are now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every american paycheck will get considerably smaller. that would be the wrong thing to do. gerri: no kidding. we have been telling you that for weeks. democrats and republicans alike should rename their parties the procrastination party. that is because like a lot of college freshman, they left their work until the last minute. including the 800 billion-dollar fiscal cliff that we have been talking about. a hundred billion dollars it hasn't happened yet. it's not like the deadline comes as a surprise to anybody at all, the least of all congress. they were the ones who extended the bush tax cuts. origi
-minute deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, right? the president and the vice president, they're going to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will be able to discuss more details about a scaled-down fiscal cliff plan. and maybe that could lead to some sort of agreement ideally for all parties in which all the senators say that they will not filibuster it, and it can go to a vote. and then speaker boehner could, in theory, agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor after the house comes back on sunday. and then we would
tonight. so we are going over the fiscal cliff, isn't that right? >> reporter: technically, that's absolutely right, you're right. because to not go over the cliff, both houses of congress will have to pass something to avert that, and the president will have to sign it. so that is true. and that is why, as i said, politically, there aren't a lot of -- there are some people who aren't that upset about it, because it kind of makes the medicine go down a little bit easier when they vote on these cuts. having said that, we've heard from democrats in particular, for weeks now, that, you know, to sort of take a deep breath, that yes, it is called the fiscal cliff, but it is more of a slope, and particularly advantageous to members of congress who haven't got be their work done that january 1st is a federal holiday. so nothing is going to happen and there aren't going to be any real-world effects, especially when we're talking about the thing that really matters the most to a lot of people around here, just how the market is reacting. we saw the market go up today at news, seemingly at
right. well who needs washington? starbucks actually has a plan to brew a fiscal cliff deal. now in a letter to starbucks employees ceo howard schultz asked employees at its d.c. area store to write, come together, on coffee cups when serving customers thursday and friday. rather than be bystanders you and your customers have the opportunity and i believe we all have a responsibility to send our elected officials a respectful but pointed message, urging them to come together to find common ground. this is not the first time starbucks has taken a political stand. during the debt ceiling debate in august 2011, schultz made a splash calling for boycott of political contributions it u.s. lawmakers until they struck a bipartisan deal. starbucks shares at this point down slightly, 48 cents. imagine john boehner going into starbucks and they write on the cup, come together. hello. lori: boehner, this is directly to you. tracy: exactly. howard schultz is on the campaign to fix the debt. he is one of the ceos that has come out. lori: he has nothing to lose being advocate, being outspoken.
october. that short shows investors nervous as lawmakers fail to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. we'll be right back. here's stan roberts who found some people banking bad -- behaving badly. >> we're gonna turn right. >> reporter: every major highway, the chp puts out an all hands on-deck call. it's called maximum enforcement. >> at the next driveway we're gonna turn right. next driveway turn right. >> reporter: this means there is a maximum amount of officers on the road looking for violaters, like this driver who -- well, listen to the officer. >> the reason i stopped you, you weren't wearing her seat belt. >> reporter: the driver claims she forgot. that's not a good excuse. >> you got cited today for not wearing your seat belt. >> reporter: this driver was observed doing something that is all too common in the bay despite it being a violation of the vehicle code. >> drive. drive. drive. exit the freeway. exit the freeway. >> reporter: even driving while on the cell phone without the benefit of a hands-free device and yes, he did get a ticket. this driver ran a stop at a front
the fiscal cliff, how it will affect your paycheck right away. >>> i'm tracee wilkins in prince george's county. coming up, clergy, children, folks who live in this county remember sandy hook by gathering for prayer in front of a gun shot. i'll have that story coming up. >>> another winter storm making its way. more cold air. >>> we continue right now to follow the latest on the fiscal cliff talks. in just a few minutes, president obama is expected to speak to the media. he's been in meetings all afternoon with congressionally leaders. those meetings wrapped up just over an hour ago. at this point, no word of an agreement. >>> so what if there is no deal? what's the impact of going over the clip for you and your family? we8, right away on your next paycheck you'll see an increase of 2% in the social security tax. for the average family that's about $1,000 more every year. now, something that might take a few weeks, income tax rates will also rise for everyone. if you make between $50 and $75,000, you'll stand to lose about $92 every paycheck. for those making between $75 and $100,000,
than five days to go before falls right off the fiscal cliff. the senate back in session today and it's the first time the senate or house has met for business between christmas and new year's in more than four decades. president obama cut his hawaii trip short arriving in washington early today. for now, the house of representatives is not in session but we've learned those lawmakers are set to return this weekend. today the senate majority leader, harry reid, says we've just about run out of time. >> if we go over the cliff, and that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today before the first of the year, aren't here with the speaker having told them they'll give them 48 hours notice. i can't imagine their consciences, out wherever they are around the country and we're here trying to get something done. >> we're awaiting reaction from the senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell. when that happens we'll go live to the senate floor but a spokesman for john boehner says senator reid should talk less and legislate more.
scramble as the fiscal cliff is approaching and why right now? what will it take to hold congress' feet to the fire finally? i mean, if it has not been held to the fire now sh, and how soo will people start feeling the pain if no deal is reached? ali, bring in both sides of the political aisle and republican strategist anna navarro and maria cardona in washington. welcome the both of you. anna, why are we here right now? why are we sitting here right now talking about this right now with the senate gone home and congress in there working and the light is on, but few people are at home. why are we doing this? >> there is no good explanation. there's definitely no justification and no excuse for this. this is like, don, when you at the beginning of the year, when you are in school at the beginning of the year and you have been assigned a big project and you leave it to the last night. when i used to do thoo i was punished. if kids behaved the way the congresspeople were, they would be in time-out. if it were the private sector, they'd all be fired. no excuse. and the only solution i would
the fiscal cliff talks? and some new years resolutions on congress. we will be right back. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty mh access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. gerri: it is official coming house will be back to deal with the fiscal cliff monday afternoon. harry reid asked the politicians to blame john boehner for everything. joining me now, chairman and cofounder. great to have you back. i mean, come on, harry reid was crazy today. >> american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it iit's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. gerri: how do you respond to that? john boehner quinones says to make everything not happen? >>
somebody's having a laugh out there about this fiscal cliff business. >>> all right. they're going to do it again. anderson cooper and comedienne kathy griffin, teaming up to usher in the new year from times square. let's say thing got weird last night on "the situation room" when the two were promoting their new year's eve special. look at this. >> somebody tells me, and i'm not sure this is true, somebody tells me that you're obsessed with wolf blitzer. and yet every year it's me talking to you guys because i'm doing blitzer's show. i'm wondering, is that -- do you take it personally, do you think there's something to this? >> i have -- >> i think wolf is wise to stay away from kathy griffin because i once -- i don't know if you know this story, cathy -- candy. i lent -- kathy griffin one asked to come to my house in long island. and like a nice guy, i sent her a key because she wanted to go there a day in advance. and that night -- >> to clean up the place. >> no, first of all -- she arrived, she was terribly disappointed. i think she thought it would be like a house in downtown abbey
with an agreement to avert going over the so-called fiscal cliff. >> talks between the two sides appear to be stalled right now. only hours to go, any reason for optimism this morning? >> it's hard to say. it is not looking good at this point. today is a rare new year's eve session of congress following a weekend where they again tried to reach a deal and still no compromise. the u.s. is just hours away from going over that fiscal cliff. without a deal before midnight, americans will be bringing in this new year with sweeping tax hikes and swing -- a tactic -- and cuts. >> >> t . >> i hope that they can work together and realize that this is affecting everyone. >> both chambers will reconvene this morning at whichthat they k together and realize that this is affecting everyone. >> both chambers will reconvene this morning at which point, there are just 12 hours left until this deadline. >> whatboth chambers will recone this morning at which point, there are just 12 hours left until this deadline. >> what are lawmakers working on today? >> we understand that senator harry reid, the major
of that looming fiscal cliff. 15 hours from right now the u.s. economy will go over that cliff unless congress and the white house can work out a last minute deal. if there is no new budget deal by midnight tonight, east coast time, income tax rates will go up for all americans. coming up at 6:15 the new numbers that are being thrown around this morning. >>> it is 6:07. starting tomorrow alameda county grocery stores and most other stores that sell food or alcohol cannot distribute plastic bags to their customers. in place of the single use bags stores are allowed to use paper or reusable bags but they have to charge at least a dime for each bag. customers are being encouraged to bring their own bags when shopping. restaurants can still provide plastic bags to customers. >> i'm trying to remember. >> some of the places i go they give you a discount. they give you five cents if you bring your own bag. >>> time now 6:08. tara is back to talk about your commute. you're also telling us about free rides for new years eve. >> that is right. muni is free from 8:00 tonight until 6:00 tomorrow morning.
gordon and stan colander. thank you for coming back. as we stand on the edge of the fiscal cliff right now, any chance that we do not go over? guest: that is pretty small. we are relying on the senate to avoid this -- to avoid a filibuster. then we are relying on the house who for the last several weeks could not take the lead. it is important to state that while the official deadline is december 31. they can continue to work until the new congress on january 3. we have more like three days for them to get something together. host: are we going over the cliff? what does it mean if we do? guest: in some sense, we're going over the cliff even if they reach a deal. when you look at the deal they have been talking about, there will still be a lot left for future decision making. even if they are able to extend tax cuts for the middle class and do not do much of anything else, you still have the haphazard dealmaking not touching any of the issues the parties said they were concerned about leading into the fiscal cliff. the payroll tax cut is going to expire. no one is talking about extendin
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